REAL LIFE WARNING. Fuckers can fuck the fuck out and fuck off.
Ok, b0ggers, I am raking suggestions around and it's b0g time as well.
I have to decide something but I can't quite make my mind up.
Let's say that I currently have a job that I like 100, in a place that
I like 30 and I currently earn 60.
I have the opportunity to apply for a job that I like 70, in a place that I
like 90 and would probably earn at least 80.
Now, for me (and my missus, but let's say me) the place where I live
is very important. My humour gets better and I lead a more interesting life
in a place I like rather than in a place I don't like.
But. I moved in this place I like 30 a mere couple of months ago, and the
reason was just because I managed to snatch this job I like 100. If I quit
it after only 4 months, my current boss would be REALLY pissed off, because
she invested a lot of money and resources on me, and I should be grateful
for that. My landlord would be pissed off as well, because I'd leave a
house I said I was going to keep for at least 1 year. What's worst,
there's relatively few people who have my same job in Europe,
that's why everybody that is involved in this kind of market more or
less knows eachother. If my boss gets really pissed off, chances are that
the rumour is probably going to spread and I could face problems if I ever
get involved in a project that is even remotely connected to my ex-firm.
And trust me, I don't really want that.
To add up and stir a bit more, the new firm is bigger but in my current
firm I already knew almost everyone prior to moving here, and my boss comes
from my same country. In the next firm, I don't know anybody and
therefore I must be really careful, and have no connections whatsoever. But
still, the place rox and if I still lived in my hometown I'd probably
choose that one, hands down.
So, what would you do?
Would you think just about yourself, about how your life would potentially
improve, take a leap into the unknown and apply for that job, thus pissing
your boss off, pissing your landlord off, getting a very bad mark on your
name (potentially - I still don't know what would happen if I resign
from my current job, but as it's not easy to find a replacement,
it's going to spell troubles for them) and leave your friends and
acquaitances here just because you found a better place, and fuck the
others?
Or would you stay here because you take pride in what you do, and respect
your job and the people who trust in you and don't want you to leave?
I'm usually known as a man of word. I didn't promise anything to
anybody, mind you, but if I leave it's going to be a low blow for
many. I'd be a 'selfish bastard', probably. A b0gger for
sure :D
dunno why filty girls keep sneaking in my journal.
posted by sisteskrik on Sunday 13th January 2008, 17:30:58
I would move to the shitty job. Once you get yourself settled into the new
place you will be able to begin looking at other places. It doesn't
sound like it is a real ass job anyway. As well, you probably like your
current place 100 because it is comfortable and familiar. If you and your
wife have nothing forcing you to stay in your current city then pack up and
move out. A big change is usually a good thing.
it would be incredibly unprofessional of your boss to slander you if you
left. he/she should understand from a business standpoint, and fuck your
landlord, unless you signed a lease?
i say go wherever you and your lady can be happiest. if you're
married, and thinking about children, put the surrounding schools into
consideration and location
About schools, no problem with that. But yes, I signed a lease, maybe
that is going to be the major problem... but I know I can void it with
a 30-days notice.
I agree. if the ex-boss would start to badmouth you, she would admit
she employed one useless tard once. fuck landlords, just properly do
what's in the lease. me personally, I'd prefer more money
and a nicer place over the job itself. finding true gratification in a
job can still be achieved once you've piled up enough
money/family/experiences.
hellish pit imp (76.79.238.*) on Sunday 13th January 2008, 19:33:35 (#60745)
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I agree with you, you shouldn't have left this turd out for me to
dance in and then track all over your mother's new carpet.
But since you're askin' for it, I would continue with my
commitment with the firm I like at 100 because if you're a man at all
you'll live in a box next to the freeway that's how really
committed we are to the whole domicile idea and besides, you're wife
has already nested in the fucker, spending more cash on making her
comfortable in the new place is going to bring the wages at 80 down to 60
anyway.
You seem to exhibit a fair degree of nationalistic pride (I would only call
you a bigot to your face), so working with a bunch of smelly foreigners is
really going to bring that 70 down to a 40, and, after awhile, the paranoia
is going to set in only to find out at the 10 month mark when you're
told 'the project is taking a new direction and we need to release
you', will you realize that they really were out to get you.
Think of this, if you are as good as you say you are being in an insular
and small community of technicians has an advantage. Learn to bid on these
larger projects that the big firms go after, outsource your personnel
requirements to teams that you and several of your peers in the small firm
manage via site visit and teleconference, make a shit-load of money for
this lady you like so much (kiss her where it stinks occasionally, Oslo?)
and retire in a chalet in western Norway with your wife and three boys.
You're a funny little anabolics addict.
By the way that was an interesting response. A bit too bold and
overexcited, typical of your 'brand', but interesting
nonetheless. I'll keep that in mind.
hellish pit imp (76.79.238.*) on Sunday 13th January 2008, 19:47:54 (#60752)
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Yeah, and you're the knucklehead that asked a panel of
ordained perverts, phreakers, and manglers of a wide variety how
to handle a personal problem in between pictures of women that
would never give you the time of day. So you're welcome.
I think I know this place a bit better than you, shithead.
Sometimes the opinions of the least apt are the most
insightful ones.
Now the show's over, go back to your BF, he's
waiting for you with his condom full of steroids and sperm.
Is this one of those Dateline "trick the audience" experiment
things? Because it was real hard to concentrate on those words you
wrote.
Work at the place you're at for a bit longer, and if you're still
pining for that other job, ask for a raise to meet the 80-pay job you
mentioned above, saying that you are considering moving to that place and
taking that job. It's not the actual pay that is at stake here, but
the leverage you have, providing a reason you can bail without looking
fickle. You don't really know if you'd like that other job 70,
so don't burn your bridges quite yet if you ever plan to cross back
over them.
do not tell them about the other offer for work.they can use this as
leverage against you.such as advancement and increase of pay,thinking you
are not team commented.you are working for a business that needs to make
profit.your life comes only once,move now.if you think you have made a
mistake,i think it would be harder not knowing if you did.take the new
job.maybe even a better job will come soon.good luck.
One of my 2 jobs is very specialized, and incestuously small as well. The
reputation thing is everything in my circle.
Having said that, I NEVER shrink from quitting if my situation is an
unhappy one. My resume right now looks kind of shitty, a string of jobs
that are 2 years long. But, Life is just too fucking short and 2 fucking
long to be in a job that you are not happy doing.
I have moved from one side of the US to the other, twice. I have sold
everything in my house and cashed out what little retirement Had to make my
last move. It was the best decision I ever made. From the outside view, it
probably looked insane.
I left an officer position at a world-leading Investment bank. making good
goddamn money with potential for nearly limitless upward mobility if I so
desired. I left it, sold everything but a few keepsakes, and drove to where
I am now with No job ready to go to and no real idea what I was doing. I
just knew I wasn't going to do THAT there anymore.
As for your decission I'd probably suggest to give it another couple
of months, be a man, don't switch attitudes like a 3yr-old and
don't fall for the first temptation.
There will be many many more good opportunities in your future life.
Pudboy on Tuesday 15th January 2008, 10:07:50 (#60843)
First off, is your missus the first, third, or last pic.
I guess last.
Take the new job that you like less, which will be offset by living in a
place that you like more, and have more income. Don't think for a
moment that if your current employer wanted to get rid of you, they would
blink an eye. It is a business to them regardless. You'll be happier
living in a better place.
I went from a job 100, place 10, and earn 90, to
job 40 place 100 earn 70, and have never regret a thing.
Great replies most of you, b0g is great. Thinking again, as time is running
short and the application time is almost over, I think I'll do what
Bionic, Ill padre and the others on their line suggested. They got the
importance of reputation right, probably because they have experienced
something like that first hand.
It's the most balanced thing. I'll start hunting for that job
again next september, so that it's going to save reputation and will
do what nymph and the other progressists suggested. Special kudos for
pudboy who's a very acute observer.
I hope it was not an once-in-a-lifetime train, though.
After all, the fucker that is going to get that position NOW will die next
august, I'm pretty sure of that. Satan told me.
Fuck I sound like Kogneto. Better get a beer and slap some bitches down the
road.
Ok b0ggers I need some advice
