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We need to give up our freedom to defend our freedom.

posted by tress on Saturday 17th September 2005, 01:43:03read 865 times

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YoDaaah on Saturday 17th September 2005, 01:53:11 (#19932) (journal)
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i would.
But only for the ones i love.
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syroxfjant on Saturday 17th September 2005, 02:07:46 (#19933)
http://epidemia.ath.cx
DAMN.. now i'm confused?! :? and what suffers of that??.. my FREEDOM!! fuck
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r0XX0r on Saturday 17th September 2005, 02:17:01 (#19934) (journal)
http://team_leperstretch.istheshit.net/
I AM William Wallace! And I see a whole army of my country men, here, in defiance of tyranny. You've come to fight as free men, and free men you are. What will you do with that freedom? Will you fight?
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Bionic-Badger on Saturday 17th September 2005, 13:47:38 (#20026) (journal)
Those poor Normans had their freedoms forcably taken away by Wallace.
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G-Man on Saturday 17th September 2005, 02:41:15 (#19936)
i don't get it
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nymphetamine (81.156.185.*) on Saturday 17th September 2005, 02:56:44 (#19943)
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If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom. but most people don't want to be free they want to be safe, so therefore I suppose ultimate safety means living in prison
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G-Man on Saturday 17th September 2005, 03:22:10 (#19945)
/confused
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weapons on Saturday 17th September 2005, 03:28:41 (#19946) (journal)
http://www.ilexikon.com/images/8/8f/William_Somerse t_Maugham_01_KMJ.jpg
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nymphetamine (81.156.185.*) on Saturday 17th September 2005, 03:48:52 (#19949)
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I doubt very! much Somerset Maugham said that??? lol yes, the first few words..but the rest...come on..that was supposed to be funny..
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Gooch_Rash on Saturday 17th September 2005, 03:32:25 (#19947) (journal)
"They that are willing to sacrifice their liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security" - Benjamin Franklin
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weapons on Saturday 17th September 2005, 03:35:51 (#19948) (journal)
"People hardly ever make use of the freedom they have. For example, the freedom of thought. Instead they demand freedom of speech as a compensation." - Mickey Mouse
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makc on Wednesday 4th October 2006, 04:05:12 (#39521) (journal)
did Mickey Mouse really said that?
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zelzor^^ (212.149.187.*) on Saturday 17th September 2005, 04:10:43 (#19950)
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Freedom fighters was a great game!
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y0hko on Saturday 17th September 2005, 04:16:10 (#19952)
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my cat's breath smells like cat food!
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makc on Wednesday 4th October 2006, 04:06:54 (#39522) (journal)
that's not breath, that's his hair. fur. because he licks himself all the time.
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Im_Rick_James_Bitch on Saturday 17th September 2005, 04:24:33 (#19954) (journal)
http://harry+potter.istheshit.net/
Once you give up freedom, you will never get it back. Look how hard it was for the early settlers of America to gain their freedom.
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YoDaaah on Saturday 17th September 2005, 09:28:03 (#19993) (journal)
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black ppl still waits.
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Bionic-Badger on Saturday 17th September 2005, 13:26:13 (#20013) (journal)
The early settlers had "freedom" simply for the fact that there wasn't anyone around to intrude on it. You form into any form of civilization, and your "freedoms" are only there because they're enforced. What happens when those freedoms are not enforce? Wild wild West: people taking "matters" into their own hands, lawlessness, gangs controlling other people.
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Im_Rick_James_Bitch on Saturday 17th September 2005, 15:53:55 (#20036) (journal)
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Uh, the early settlers were under British rule if you will recall.
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Bionic-Badger on Saturday 17th September 2005, 23:34:15 (#20057) (journal)
Are you talking about colonists? America has had many periods of settling, and the settlers are more associated with the treks out west, than the colonization of the New World, in which case you should state the settlement of the east coast.

The colonization of the east coast was less about freedom, and more about financial and land opportunity. Yes, there were some religious reasons, but that was less about religious oppression, and more that they were sick of the perceived moral decline of England (and that people in England were sick of hearing them too).
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blub85 on Saturday 17th September 2005, 05:42:17 (#19965)
The first freedom in the sentence is the "I do whatever
I like". If everybody had the freedom to kill and steal it would turn into a big war, and that would be the death of freedom.
The point is to sacrifice a piece of the first freedom so we all don't step on each other's feet, limiting our freedom to gain freedom.
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Bionic-Badger on Saturday 17th September 2005, 13:30:38 (#20015) (journal)
That, or limit other people's freedoms to ensure our own.
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Sumerah on Saturday 17th September 2005, 07:23:24 (#19972) (journal)
"By our efforts, we have lit a fire as well--a fire in the minds of men. It warms those who feel its power, it burns those who fight its progress, and one day this untamed fire of freedom will reach the darkest corners of our world." - George W. Bush.

He's so full of shit, look for example @ Guantanamo...
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Bionic-Badger on Saturday 17th September 2005, 13:29:11 (#20014) (journal)
That's about as naïve as believing that, under any circumstances, you should not kill another human being. There are always exceptions to the rule, and generally the exceptions involve bringing a greater amount of good for one group of people, at the expense of another.
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surgeonbob on Saturday 17th September 2005, 09:08:32 (#19982) (journal)
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only works if you don't actualy have freedom to begin with
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Death_Tef on Saturday 17th September 2005, 09:22:48 (#19989) (journal)
http://de.geocities.com/laplasmoperato/
i've not consciously experienced freedom yet. but that doesn't mean i'm not free.
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Bionic-Badger on Saturday 17th September 2005, 13:33:54 (#20016) (journal)
Most people haven't experienced oppression and so they don't appreciate what freedoms they already have. Even worse is when that cluelessness makes them whine and bitch when their "freedoms," which weren't freedoms to begin with, are taken away.
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Death_Tef on Saturday 17th September 2005, 13:45:51 (#20025) (journal)
http://de.geocities.com/laplasmoperato/
futurama - taste of freedom? (ey, that's my kind of education :\)

what i wanna say is: your right. and i fear the day my "freedom" is taken away from me, and i start to bitch and whine around. because that day will be marked in my calendar as "my life sucks now".
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Shotgun_Facelift on Saturday 17th September 2005, 09:33:50 (#19996)
http://www.4chan.org/flash/emo.html
0 (2)
"put 'F' back in Freedom!"
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Dopey_scorpio on Saturday 17th September 2005, 13:41:16 (#20020) (journal)
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i dont want freedom. its not stable.
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she-ra on Saturday 17th September 2005, 16:22:45 (#20038) (journal)
http://web.textfiles.com/
"liberty means responsibility. that's why most men dread it" g.b.shaw
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smallbadwolf on Saturday 17th September 2005, 22:37:09 (#20052)
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look what you have started...i hope your happy with yourself....like a kid with a magnifying glass still above the ant hill on a sunny day......*tisk tisk*
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Ralphs_Alter_Ego on Monday 19th September 2005, 07:49:21 (#20197) (journal)
that's our boy...!! :)
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kogneto on Sunday 18th September 2005, 19:57:33 (#20154) (journal)
Excessive freedom leads to anarchy, which in turn results in despotism, the most burdensome and most brutal slavery. - Plato
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